Discusses some of
the documents she has preserved from the war period
What did he have
to do when he was captured?
Em. Well I remember my brother telling me when he came
home. He was a piper and he wore his kilt his socks and
his skean dubh and when he knew he was going to be taken,
now they were absolutely surrounded there was no chance,
they wirna gonna get out at all and he was on a farm he
took his skean dubh out his sock and he put it in a great
big pile of turnips that was there as if the Germans had
caught him with the skean dubh - that was a weapon and
they would have killed him so he took his Shen Dubh and
hid it amongst the turnips and when he came back home
5 years later he wanted to go back to France look for
his skean dubh, but they wouldn't let him.
I don't know if you'll have seen one of these. My husband
was in the Air Force, the Air Force an' he was a gunner
an that was his Flying Logbook. In that he had to write
down every hour that he flew everything, who was the pilot,
and what he did and where he flew to and every bit. -
every hour he flew during the war and what he did. Whether
it daytime or night-time and he recorded every hour.
So if say he was up
in the air he would have to write out the notes again?
No. They would write when they came back. They wouldn't
take the logbook with them, what they would do, I think
was they mustered, he flew flying boats. Now you've never
heard of a flying boat have you - a seaplane [explanation
of seaplane] - they called them flying boats - seaplanes,
because he had to get a wee boat out to his plane. An'
then get in the plane an' then take off. An' what they
did was, Coastal Command they cruised the waters looking
for submarines - enemy submarines. [Noise] And what they
did, well were looking for submarines to drop depth charges.
I'll tell you a story about that. My wee grandson was
- we'er than you - and he asked his Papa - his papa was
telling him what he did in the war - and did you kill
and did you sink any submarines papa? His papa thought
if I tell him I actually sunk a submarine and killed somebody
he wouldn't be very happy with me so he said - No but
I may have killed a few whales - and the wee boy went
-oooooh papa why did you kill the whales, the whales did
you no harm at all, you were meant to kill the Japanese.
[Laughs] So he wasn't very pleased at his papa killing
the whales.
So he probably say killed
quite a few people say?
Hmm.Well he did not want to tell his grandson he had probably
sank a few submarines an' the also did air sea rescue,
know like if a fighter plane came down they went out an'
rescued victims, or boats. They did a lot of air sea rescue.
You might want to see that [hands over logbook]. An' that
was his discharge papers telling him he had been a good
boy. [reaching into envelope] These things - every soldier,
every sailor, every airman wore these, these are what
they called his dogtags they had his name on them and
it has his number and they never, they weren't allowed
to take them off - see how dirty it is - and he kept that
one all the time [mixed voices] And that was his [round
patch] he wore that up there [above right breast pocket]
to show he was aircrew and that he was flying and that
he was a gunner. And that was when he was a warrant officer
[showing patches on right sleeve cuff] wore them on their
sleeves. [IDcard] Now that was what everybody had. That
was your Identity Card an' you carried it with you everywhere.
And that was my husband's he lived in Broomhill and when
he married me he came to live in Bankview Terrace and
we to live in Beech Crescent an' that was, that's not
my original one because when I got married and I got my
name changed I had to get a new one. I don't know where
my original went.
Where did you get married?
Where did I get married? In Denholmhead in Burnbridge
after the war.
Are these quite valuable
to you?
They are very valuable to me and probably to Miss Quinn.
And you know the logbooks and his papers. There wouldn't
be many logbooks.