So did
you live near a place that was bombed?
Elsie: No.
Martha: I remember one
night I was in bed with my mother when Bannermill (down
beside the beach) was bombed. We were in our beds and the
vibration threw us out of our bed and we landed on the floor
…and that was the worst bit I remember. I didn’t
realise what was happening though I was screaming my head
off but that was the scariest part of it.
And then there was a pipe factory behind (I stayed in Albion
street which was on the boulevard) and the bomb just missed
our house an hit the pipe factory and shattered all the
pipes- that was the scariest part.
To realise what it was like when we were kids you would
have to understand their that we had no bathrooms. We could
not have a bath or a shower when we wanted… no television,
refrigerators or washing machines. You had to go down in
to the washing house; build a fire under a big boiler, get
hot water (no hot water in the house- if you wanted hot
water y had to boil a kettle on the fire) and you just got
a kettle full of water and then you went down to the washing
house built a fire underneath this boiler and you’ve
got your hot water there… you transferred into wooden
tubs, did your washing on a scrubbing board- an all day
job. Once your washing was done you’d to cross the
street to hang it on your ropes – it wasn’t
fun.
What sort
of things did you eat during the war?
Elsie: Not a lot. You
only got 2oz cheese (small piece of cheese), bread was rationed
(we had ration books) and we couldn’t go into a shop
like you do nowadays and buy a loaf o bread. You got half
a loaf and you had to have coupons out of your ration book,
certain amount of coupons. It was the same with your sweeties.
I remember maltesers…maltesers were still on the go
at that time. You had sweetie coupons- they were ‘E’
and ‘D’. ‘E’ was 4ozs an a ‘D’
wis just 2ozs. So you just got a packet of maltesers for
your D. That was for a week! Y didn’t get a pack of
maltesers every day like you would do nowadays. So ‘sweeties
were rationed. Furniture was even rationed and clothes.
If you didn’t have coupons you did not get new clothes.
(We were up at the Gordon museum an they had your rations
laid out over on a plate.)
Did you
get more on the farm?
Martha: O aye we were
okay on the farm. We had eggs and plenty milk my father
grew all his own vegetables and I mean they had hens and
you had all that- you see. But I mean if you didn’t
eat what was set out in front of you…well you had
it. There was no choice – none at all! Take it or
leave it! For your supper you had a boiled egg, if you were
lucky. One boiled egg…that was your supper! Most of
the times it was mince and tatties and bacon, but that was
about as much as you got in a week– half a pound of
mince in a week and that was to do the whole family.
You were always hungry?
When I think back to it now…we were always hungry,
but you weren’t aware of it. At the time ye did not
have money like they do nowadays. We didn’t get rolls
in the morning. You were lucky to have a bit of toast in
the morning or a plate of porridge… porridge every
morning. No cereals on the go at that time.
When a pile of bananas came in and you used to have to queue
for fruit. Down at the shore there was a place called Barnetts;
it was a wholesale-shop and that was where the boats came
in and you had to queue there. You were maybe allowed 2
oranges or 2 bananas at a time- no fruit in any quantity.
We never got a whole apple or a whole orange.
Did any
of your family go to war?
My cousins all went to war. My father died when I was just
a baby, so my cousin and I were both brought up with my
grandma. He was so much older than me. He was 18 –
he had to go to war. And I do remember him coming in with
his army uniform. He was a driver an he did time in Germany.
In a concentration camp?
Yes, not for long… about 4 months before the war finished.
He was a very moody sort of person once he came out of the
army because he had seen a lot but he didn’t speak
about it. However later on over the years he began to speak
about it – but it was not fun.
You just have to realise it is a different generation now.
We didn’t have recorders and things like that…no-no,
nothing like that. It was difficult, no technology whatsoever.
A radio kept you in touch or if you went to the cinema-
and the partly news kept you in touch with the outside world.
…No television, no refrigerators. . . battery accumulator…
away to the garage to get topped up with acid.
…Which cinema?
…Casino [wasn’t a gambling place- it was a picture
house] on Wells st. It was on the Boulevard and the Kingsway
round on King St- but that was dearer. We could go to the
casino in the afternoon for 4d in old money [2p to you].
After decimalation came in, prices went up. That was the
worst thing that ever happened in this country because I
was newly married. Prices didn’t go up by a penny,
it went up by 5p, which was a shilling in old money. Your
way of living completely changed because you weren’t
getting enough wages to correspond with the decimalation.
So we were poorer – there was no doubt about it.
What sort
of sweets did you have?
‘Coo candy’ (Highland candy), maltesers, liquorice
allsorts and pandrops but that was about it. There was not
the variety you have today. Sour plooms and hard sweets…a
lot of them made their own toffee and a lot made their own
tablet with sugar, once it came more plentiful. But you
didn’t have Coca Cola or that. We were getting a small
bottle of orangeade and lemonade. That was about your variety
at the time…no hamburgers or nothing like that.
So how
did you celebrate the end of the war?
We were taken down to the harbour, like a big party in the
harbour – that’s what I mind on. Later on the
Japanese surrendered and we had a big party in the Caslegate,
all the neighbours, everybody. Some played accordion and
some played the piano.
…during the day? …at
night?
It started during the day and went on all night.
…What about in the country?
The only thing I can remember is being standing waving flags.
That’s the only thing I can remember about it!
In the school we had mesh stuff over the windows so if they
did happen to get blown in, the class wouldn’t come
out in. Sometimes you heard the sirens going but nobody
ever got bombed in Insch …not out in the country.
At night you could sometimes see searchlights in the sky
…always searchlights. Another thing… you always
had to have your blackouts- never had to have any peeps
of light. Another thing I remember is the foghorn, always
going for the boats.
In the country that must have been tough?!
Aye! Heavy curtains.
The ARP (Air Raid Precautions) used to go around, checking
everybody that their windows were darkened.
They were men who always had a tin helmet on- they help
people that had been bombed. They went around the bomb sites
(places that had been bombed) to give first aid to them
that had been hurt. I do remember ARP-always yellow bands-
yellow on their hats.
Do you
think Chamberlain made the right kind of choices during
the war?
Well he was taken in – Hitler told him a lot of lies,
I think. He told him things that never happened. He said
there wouldn’t be a war. After that there was a war.
I cannot really remember much about the government at that
time...I was just a child. Now I think he was taken in by
Hitler.
Did you
have the chance to vote?
I was 18…it was 21 before you could vote. I was brought
up by my grandmother as I said and my grandmother was staunch
labour. My grandmother’s neighbour was staunch conservative
and there was some battle royals there – but they
never stopped speaking to each other. They never came to
blows or nothing but there was some awful rows about it!
At the time we were kids, we weren’t paying much attention
to that. Some of the older ones would moan about that.
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